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> <channel><title>Comments on: Car clocking up 400% in downturn</title> <atom:link href="http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/</link> <description>Official Used Car Check, Vehicle History Check Ireland</description> <lastBuildDate>Thu, 24 Nov 2011 16:44:14 +0000</lastBuildDate> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2</generator> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <atom:link rel="hub" href="http://pubsubhubbub.appspot.com" /> <atom:link rel="hub" href="http://superfeedr.com/hubbub" /> <item><title>By: Motorcheck Blog&#183; car-clocking-grips-northern-ireland</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-1797</link> <dc:creator>Motorcheck Blog&#183; car-clocking-grips-northern-ireland</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:29:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-1797</guid> <description>[...] of the cars service history is vital in establishing its true mileage.For further tips on how to avoid buying a clocked car click here.Other Posts we&#039;ve Written on This TopicCar Clocking Costs Irish Consumers Up To €40 [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the cars service history is vital in establishing its true mileage.For further tips on how to avoid buying a clocked car click here.Other Posts we&#39;ve Written on This TopicCar Clocking Costs Irish Consumers Up To €40 [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Motorcheck Blog&#183; car-clocking-grips-northern-ireland</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-1798</link> <dc:creator>Motorcheck Blog&#183; car-clocking-grips-northern-ireland</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 23 Jun 2011 08:29:23 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-1798</guid> <description>[...] of the cars service history is vital in establishing its true mileage.For further tips on how to avoid buying a clocked car click here.Other Posts we&#039;ve Written on This TopicCar Clocking Costs Irish Consumers Up To €40 [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of the cars service history is vital in establishing its true mileage.For further tips on how to avoid buying a clocked car click here.Other Posts we&#39;ve Written on This TopicCar Clocking Costs Irish Consumers Up To €40 [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shane Teskey</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-833</link> <dc:creator>Shane Teskey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 20:00:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-833</guid> <description>Hi Darren,
I was getting a bit worried when I read your email and came to the part about the VIN number not being legible. Any interference with a VIN is not good and should be double checked. Were you able to access the VIN in any other part of the car? There are a number of places to check depending on the make / model but you can always hook up a diagnostic to the ECU and check that.
Make sure you compare it against the VIN number using the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.motorcheck.ie/reportUpdates&quot;&gt;update feature &lt;/a&gt;on Motorcheck. This will confirm that the VIN you have is the same as the VIN on the national vehicle file.
I&#039;m not sure why it would fail the NCT though. I&#039;ve had a look through the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ncts.ie/pdf/nctmanual.pdf&quot;&gt;NCT manual&lt;/a&gt; and can&#039;t find any section that requires the VIN to be legible on the vehicle. Did they give you any particular reason?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Darren,</p><p>I was getting a bit worried when I read your email and came to the part about the VIN number not being legible. Any interference with a VIN is not good and should be double checked. Were you able to access the VIN in any other part of the car? There are a number of places to check depending on the make / model but you can always hook up a diagnostic to the ECU and check that.</p><p>Make sure you compare it against the VIN number using the <a
href="http://www.motorcheck.ie/reportUpdates">update feature </a>on Motorcheck. This will confirm that the VIN you have is the same as the VIN on the national vehicle file.</p><p>I&#8217;m not sure why it would fail the NCT though. I&#8217;ve had a look through the <a
href="http://www.ncts.ie/pdf/nctmanual.pdf">NCT manual</a> and can&#8217;t find any section that requires the VIN to be legible on the vehicle. Did they give you any particular reason?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Darren</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-826</link> <dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator> <pubDate>Wed, 26 May 2010 00:50:51 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-826</guid> <description>Hi guys,
Wondering if you can help me. I bought a car from a delaer in Dublin last week.He told me it had been cosmetically damaged (no chassis damage) in an accident.
I could see the repair job when I looked under the bonnet on the driver&#039;s side valance. When I brought it home to Longford my mechanic/panal beater checked it and was worried because the stamped chasis number couldn&#039;t be fully read because of the repair job. The last few numbers are grinded off. I checked out the car&#039;s details with a full report on motorcheck.ie before I purchased and chassis number and all else checked out fine, albeit a high number of owners. Although it has an NCT test, I checked today and they said it would fail the next one because of that.
They advised if I could get customs or a Garda verification letter it would pass when due. Can you please help as I am very worried and not sure what to do?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi guys,</p><p>Wondering if you can help me. I bought a car from a delaer in Dublin last week.He told me it had been cosmetically damaged (no chassis damage) in an accident.</p><p>I could see the repair job when I looked under the bonnet on the driver&#8217;s side valance. When I brought it home to Longford my mechanic/panal beater checked it and was worried because the stamped chasis number couldn&#8217;t be fully read because of the repair job. The last few numbers are grinded off. I checked out the car&#8217;s details with a full report on motorcheck.ie before I purchased and chassis number and all else checked out fine, albeit a high number of owners. Although it has an NCT test, I checked today and they said it would fail the next one because of that.</p><p>They advised if I could get customs or a Garda verification letter it would pass when due. Can you please help as I am very worried and not sure what to do?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shane Teskey</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-643</link> <dc:creator>Shane Teskey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 13 Apr 2010 16:07:26 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-643</guid> <description>Hi Charlotte,
It&#039;s likely that this was a genuine mistake on the part of the garage. In our experience a car clocker will reverse the display by tens of thousands of miles in order to maximise their illegitimate profits. Anything under 10,000 is usually an administrative error. It can be quite common for dealers to advertise their cars online and forget to update the mileage readings as time goes by.
As long as you&#039;re happy with the car and all mechanical problems have been addressed I&#039;d consider taking the cash offered and ask for a 12 month warranty as a demonstration of the garage&#039;s faith in the car. Just be sure that all the relevant records for the car are corrected so it doesn&#039;t show up as clocked if you try to sell it again further down the line.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Charlotte,</p><p>It&#8217;s likely that this was a genuine mistake on the part of the garage. In our experience a car clocker will reverse the display by tens of thousands of miles in order to maximise their illegitimate profits. Anything under 10,000 is usually an administrative error. It can be quite common for dealers to advertise their cars online and forget to update the mileage readings as time goes by.</p><p>As long as you&#8217;re happy with the car and all mechanical problems have been addressed I&#8217;d consider taking the cash offered and ask for a 12 month warranty as a demonstration of the garage&#8217;s faith in the car. Just be sure that all the relevant records for the car are corrected so it doesn&#8217;t show up as clocked if you try to sell it again further down the line.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: charlotte mcgowan</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-640</link> <dc:creator>charlotte mcgowan</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 10 Apr 2010 09:57:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-640</guid> <description>Have recently part exchanged 2 ford focus for a diesel focus from a major ford dealer. The advert showed 35,000 miles on the clock on which i paid a deposit. The car arrived with an MOT cert saying 45,000 miles on clock and service book handwritten with 35,000.  Within 6 miles of taking car home the &#039;cluster&#039; broke. When it was replaced the service book was stamped with 53,000 miles crossed out and 45,000 miles written in. I have been offered £250 which i think insulting. What do you suggest?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have recently part exchanged 2 ford focus for a diesel focus from a major ford dealer. The advert showed 35,000 miles on the clock on which i paid a deposit. The car arrived with an MOT cert saying 45,000 miles on clock and service book handwritten with 35,000.  Within 6 miles of taking car home the &#8216;cluster&#8217; broke. When it was replaced the service book was stamped with 53,000 miles crossed out and 45,000 miles written in. I have been offered £250 which i think insulting. What do you suggest?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shane Teskey</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-608</link> <dc:creator>Shane Teskey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:50:15 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-608</guid> <description>Hiya,
I&#039;ve run a report for you on the registration number and sent it directly to your email address. Hopefully this one will work out okay for you.
Shane.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hiya,</p><p>I&#8217;ve run a report for you on the registration number and sent it directly to your email address. Hopefully this one will work out okay for you.</p><p>Shane.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Replayette</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-606</link> <dc:creator>Replayette</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 26 Mar 2010 10:48:56 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-606</guid> <description>Thanks Shane,
Was stuck with car, but did manage to get some compensation, which I am still waiting for full payment of 4 years on!!!  I was totally fooled, the guy looked honest and produced (albeit fake) a service history book, and I thought I knew what to look out for, my partner was fooled aswell.  Being an honest person, I feel its only right to admit the cars history.  Never mind, learnt my lesson!!!
I am currently thinking of buying.. FE02 SYU.  Any comments on the car&#039;s performance etc; greatly appreciated.  Thanks for your time.....</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Shane,</p><p>Was stuck with car, but did manage to get some compensation, which I am still waiting for full payment of 4 years on!!!  I was totally fooled, the guy looked honest and produced (albeit fake) a service history book, and I thought I knew what to look out for, my partner was fooled aswell.  Being an honest person, I feel its only right to admit the cars history.  Never mind, learnt my lesson!!!<br
/> I am currently thinking of buying.. FE02 SYU.  Any comments on the car&#8217;s performance etc; greatly appreciated.  Thanks for your time&#8230;..</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shane Teskey</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-577</link> <dc:creator>Shane Teskey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:01:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-577</guid> <description>Hi there,
I&#039;m surprised that you didn&#039;t return the car to the dealer and sue for compensation! Car clocking continues to be a series problem in Ireland and the UK. The office of fair trading issued a report recently and indicated that they think it&#039;s could be costing UK buyers as much as &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-costs-irish-consumers-up-to-e40-million/&quot;&gt;580 Million Pounds a year&lt;/a&gt;! Unfortunately it looks like you&#039;re one of the unlucky ones.
If you can&#039;t get any satisfaction from the dealer who sold you the car I would encourage you to be as honest as possible with any potential buyer. Explain that you&#039;re not sure what the correct mileage is on the car and advise them that they purchase it on the basis that it&#039;s mechanically sound and not to make any assumptions from the odometer reading. That way you can&#039;t be held liable for any future problems that the car may have.
Give yourself a pat on the back for being honest your car. Too many people would take a chance and sell it on &#039;as is&#039; which only perpetuates the problem. If you&#039;re being another car in the UK or Ireland drop me a line with the registration number. I&#039;d be happy to give you a couple of free motorcheck reports as a small reward.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,</p><p>I&#8217;m surprised that you didn&#8217;t return the car to the dealer and sue for compensation! Car clocking continues to be a series problem in Ireland and the UK. The office of fair trading issued a report recently and indicated that they think it&#8217;s could be costing UK buyers as much as <a
href="http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-costs-irish-consumers-up-to-e40-million/">580 Million Pounds a year</a>! Unfortunately it looks like you&#8217;re one of the unlucky ones.</p><p>If you can&#8217;t get any satisfaction from the dealer who sold you the car I would encourage you to be as honest as possible with any potential buyer. Explain that you&#8217;re not sure what the correct mileage is on the car and advise them that they purchase it on the basis that it&#8217;s mechanically sound and not to make any assumptions from the odometer reading. That way you can&#8217;t be held liable for any future problems that the car may have.</p><p>Give yourself a pat on the back for being honest your car. Too many people would take a chance and sell it on &#8216;as is&#8217; which only perpetuates the problem. If you&#8217;re being another car in the UK or Ireland drop me a line with the registration number. I&#8217;d be happy to give you a couple of free motorcheck reports as a small reward.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Replayette</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-566</link> <dc:creator>Replayette</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:35:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-566</guid> <description>Hi, I unfortunately purchased a car through a dealer, which I later found out through trading standards contacting me had been &#039;clocked&#039; by some 60,000 miles.  Thankfully the trader in question was prosecuted.  I am now in a position where I would like to sell the car on.  Do I legally have to declare the true mileage (which I don&#039;t really know) only a estimate, as I have no documents in support of this?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, I unfortunately purchased a car through a dealer, which I later found out through trading standards contacting me had been &#8216;clocked&#8217; by some 60,000 miles.  Thankfully the trader in question was prosecuted.  I am now in a position where I would like to sell the car on.  Do I legally have to declare the true mileage (which I don&#8217;t really know) only a estimate, as I have no documents in support of this?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shane Teskey</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-547</link> <dc:creator>Shane Teskey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-547</guid> <description>Hi Phil, Have you tried running Motorcheck report on it? OUr national mileage register could well have some data on it that will be of use. Just enter the Irish registration and we&#039;ll automatically find the UK reg and perform a search on our UK databases as well.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Phil, Have you tried running Motorcheck report on it? OUr national mileage register could well have some data on it that will be of use. Just enter the Irish registration and we&#8217;ll automatically find the UK reg and perform a search on our UK databases as well.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: phil</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-541</link> <dc:creator>phil</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:29:45 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-541</guid> <description>Hi Shane , How can you check if a UK import has been clocked? The bmw i&#039;m looking at has an irish reg on it at the moment plus depite having 85k on the clock the service history only goes as far as 55k with BMW dealers and then stops . A bit of a worry if you ask me.
Thank in advance.
Phil</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shane , How can you check if a UK import has been clocked? The bmw i&#8217;m looking at has an irish reg on it at the moment plus depite having 85k on the clock the service history only goes as far as 55k with BMW dealers and then stops . A bit of a worry if you ask me.</p><p>Thank in advance.</p><p>Phil</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shane Teskey</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-404</link> <dc:creator>Shane Teskey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 13:04:58 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-404</guid> <description>Hi Sean, Most of the main dealers will be able to verify the mileage against the cars ECU. Of course it is possible for a maid dealer to be caught out too. That&#039;s why checking the service history and contacting the previous owner if possible is always a good idea.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sean, Most of the main dealers will be able to verify the mileage against the cars ECU. Of course it is possible for a maid dealer to be caught out too. That&#8217;s why checking the service history and contacting the previous owner if possible is always a good idea.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Sean</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-403</link> <dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 10:59:00 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-403</guid> <description>UK 09 passat car has 15500 miles  -  that sounds legit?  Do you think any of the main VW dealers risk selling a clocked car  - Issac Agnew,  Donnellys group , TJ Hamilton  all in NI ? I dont think so , they do their own checking?</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UK 09 passat car has 15500 miles  &#8211;  that sounds legit?  Do you think any of the main VW dealers risk selling a clocked car  &#8211; Issac Agnew,  Donnellys group , TJ Hamilton  all in NI ? I dont think so , they do their own checking?</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shane Teskey</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-324</link> <dc:creator>Shane Teskey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 15:08:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-324</guid> <description>Hi Tony,
No bias here against UK Cars! I agree with you - there is a great deal more data available on the UK registered vehicle than the Irish one, in fact we report on thousands of UK cars every year.
The problem is that car history check&#039;s are not routinely performed in Ireland so a car that may have a colourful history in the UK could escape unnoticed in Ireland. That&#039;s why some unscrupulous sellers are able to get away with selling dodgy UK cars here in Ireland.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tony,</p><p>No bias here against UK Cars! I agree with you &#8211; there is a great deal more data available on the UK registered vehicle than the Irish one, in fact we report on thousands of UK cars every year.</p><p>The problem is that car history check&#8217;s are not routinely performed in Ireland so a car that may have a colourful history in the UK could escape unnoticed in Ireland. That&#8217;s why some unscrupulous sellers are able to get away with selling dodgy UK cars here in Ireland.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tony</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-319</link> <dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 23:43:54 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-319</guid> <description>I don&#039;t know how you guys managed to figure out that U.K. cars are a big risk, considering the fact that at least &#039;ringers&#039; are independently noted to be easier to spot with U.K. cars thanks to the data available on U.K. cars, which is not available on Irish ones. I take it that this is a sop to the Irish motor trade, who dislike U.K. imports ( which compete with their vast quantities of clocked cars )</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know how you guys managed to figure out that U.K. cars are a big risk, considering the fact that at least &#8216;ringers&#8217; are independently noted to be easier to spot with U.K. cars thanks to the data available on U.K. cars, which is not available on Irish ones. I take it that this is a sop to the Irish motor trade, who dislike U.K. imports ( which compete with their vast quantities of clocked cars )</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John Murray</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-37</link> <dc:creator>John Murray</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 00:51:32 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-37</guid> <description>Hi Shane
Thanks for your help,its great to know that even the digital clocks can be checked.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Shane<br
/> Thanks for your help,its great to know that even the digital clocks can be checked.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Shane Teskey</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-36</link> <dc:creator>Shane Teskey</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 19:36:31 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-36</guid> <description>Hi John, the first thing you could do is compare the current odometer reading with Motorcheck&#039;s Irish National Mileage Register. If the car has been clocked and we have a higher reading on file you&#039;ll know about it instantly. The second option is to have one of our Motorcheck test centres run a diagnostic check on the cars ECU. If the digital reading was modified in the ECU we should be able to detect it.
Thanks for your comment.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi John, the first thing you could do is compare the current odometer reading with Motorcheck&#8217;s Irish National Mileage Register. If the car has been clocked and we have a higher reading on file you&#8217;ll know about it instantly. The second option is to have one of our Motorcheck test centres run a diagnostic check on the cars ECU. If the digital reading was modified in the ECU we should be able to detect it.</p><p>Thanks for your comment.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: John Murray</title><link>http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/car-clocking-up-400-in-downturn/#comment-34</link> <dc:creator>John Murray</dc:creator> <pubDate>Sat, 12 Dec 2009 17:22:22 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://www.motorcheck.ie/blog/?p=165#comment-34</guid> <description>Hi
Is there any way of telling if a ford focus with a digital clock has been clocked as i am looking to buy a good second hand 1 in january.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi<br
/> Is there any way of telling if a ford focus with a digital clock has been clocked as i am looking to buy a good second hand 1 in january.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
